BeforeDawn Guild

can i do this too seeing it as im the only male human paladin??? ehhhhh

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... adin&hl=en

Try it, and if you can out-dps halikar you can stick with it

Although then again, unlike halikar, if you get aggro you can bubble and, ya know................live

thats great but think of what a war could do in his t2.5

/gkick


....seriously

STFU and heal/buff noob...

the good old days
i miss it

He was behind the rogues and didn't show SW_Stats so maybe that was a lie. He also makes a good point, if we want DPS get another rogue because they can out do him.

if thats the case lets /gkick all dps warrios

I doubt he could out dps a warrior with half a brain and half the gear he needs. The warriors were probably tanking that fight as well since Noth takes about 5.

other than getting the mob down past 20% and EX and spaming talents(deathwish ect..) how much can u(warrior) dps?the pally only using SOC and free winging htting for 900-1200(norm hits) With out Wrath/Exor.seems to me If a pally is speced right and has the gear(warriors need the right spec AND gear to dps) i think i pally can out dps a warrior.
SOC does spell damg 70% of the wep damg meanning if the wep crits the Spell damg(when it procs) its going to be ether the same damg or more.We can and do have good +spell damg thats more Dps than a warrior can add

Granted a warrior 70% will out dps a pally on NON-undead mobs
But you Put a pally with undead and you get Dead mobs.

You can say STFU and buff/heal/cleanse,then ill say stop tryn to DPS and tank..
ppl say if we dont heal/cleanse/buff(duh) and dps in raids we will have a 90% chance of being /gkicked.Now with that said, warriors...If you want to dps all the time go pvp,or get tanking gear and tank if we want dps we will get rogues to out do you all the time.





You see its the same

He was behind the rogues and didn't show SW_Stats so maybe that was a lie. He also makes a good point, if we want DPS get another rogue because they can out do him.

tralinc wrote:other than getting the mob down past 20% and EX and spaming talents(deathwish ect..) how much can u(warrior) dps?the pally only using SOC and free winging htting for 900-1200(norm hits) With out Wrath/Exor.seems to me If a pally is speced right and has the gear(warriors need the right spec AND gear to dps) i think i pally can out dps a warrior.
SOC does spell damg 70% of the wep damg meanning if the wep crits the Spell damg(when it procs) its going to be ether the same damg or more.We can and do have good +spell damg thats more Dps than a warrior can add

Granted a warrior 70% will out dps a pally on NON-undead mobs
But you Put a pally with undead and you get Dead mobs.

You can say STFU and buff/heal/cleanse,then ill say stop tryn to DPS and tank..
ppl say if we dont heal/cleanse/buff(duh) and dps in raids we will have a 90% chance of being /gkicked.Now with that said, warriors...If you want to dps all the time go pvp,or get tanking gear and tank if we want dps we will get rogues to out do you all the time.





You see its the same

He was behind the rogues and didn't show SW_Stats so maybe that was a lie. He also makes a good point, if we want DPS get another rogue because they can out do him.

I already do tank, look at my spec 11/5/35. Anyways, ask Ouranos. I out DPSed him in Scholo and what type of mobs are in a scholo?
EDIT-
We also have dps tanks incase we need them, sometimes IE Anub fight you don't need that many in tank gear but the next boss(Faerlina) You need more tanks. So what is the point of the Warrior's all going into tank gear? Sure rogues can out DPS a warrior but the rogues won't outshine them in tanking Faerlina adds. DPS warriors can take hits better then DPS Pallys.

The only time I can see a Pally DPS is on trash, or possibly that Noth fight as Pakse did the last time I was there, otherwise, you could probably do a lot more healing

well the mission calls what we need.

anyclass can dps(even the little bit they do)

as for Ouranos he does not know how to play a pally.thats a given

you outdps'd ouranus, not me!!! pally dps ftw!!

Tralinc and i are leaving BD to form an all pally guild so we can breeze thru naxx...cu suckers at expansion

max...you can come too, but only as a healer

You guys are all noobs.

You are a noob if you ever think that pallys can out-dps rogues/dps warriors on anything that isn't undead. Just sit back, heal and might me (or whatever pally buff you do) and let the dps take care of things.

my normal hit crits with jus BS have hit for 1500...as for bloodthrist try 2659 as my highest to date...with regualr crits with Death Wish up around 2200. And thats jus 2H fury...Dual Wield fury is quite higher DPS on a single target mob. I went Dual Wield on Patchwerk this week and came in 5th on SWS stats......while when i went 2H on patchwerk last week on our first kill i was 10th.

Halikar wrote:my normal hit crits with jus BS have hit for 1500...as for bloodthrist try 2659 as my highest to date...with regualr crits with DW up around 2200. And thats jus 2H fury...DW fury is quite higher DPS on a single target mob. I went DW on Patchwerk this week and came in 5th on SWS stats......while when i went 2H on patchwerk last week on our first kill i was 10th.

Wow. DW used in two different ways in this post. Took me a minute to figure out where you meant Death Wish and where you meant Dual Wield.

Raun wrote:

Halikar wrote:my normal hit crits with jus BS have hit for 1500...as for bloodthrist try 2659 as my highest to date...with regualr crits with DW up around 2200. And thats jus 2H fury...DW fury is quite higher DPS on a single target mob. I went DW on Patchwerk this week and came in 5th on SWS stats......while when i went 2H on patchwerk last week on our first kill i was 10th.

Wow. DW used in two different ways in this post. Took me a minute to figure out where you meant Death Wish and where you meant Dual Wield.

ya..kek

Let real people do this job, Heal and might me.

Go check Rei video about paladins, your not a warrior heal or bubble heart

Been forever since I posted here, just got bored and decided to read this. PTR is up, will be testing out the ret tree there, but as to the video... yes, he did all that mostly through potions/dark runes. He bit so many mana items and had mongoose pots/agi pots and everything else a rogue uses. I've had alot of time to grow as a pally, and yes, the rumor is true, I AM the one ridin around with an Ashkandi, but when raid time comes, I zone in and pull out my nearly +600 heal gear and my 7 something thousand mana. I did a scholo run recently with some guildies at like, 2 in the mornin, out of 4 people (priest did no damage, at all) I did bout 1/3 of the damage, tied with our tank (who was tanking with a KR for fun). We had no AoE or heavy damage dealers but me and him, it was just a joke run. Anyway, I've heard ya'll have gotten alot of new bosses down, grats gang, good luck to ya in the future.